Article: Galician judge rules that filming women peeing in public is legal

[mgardner]

In Catalan: hxxps://www.ccma.cat/324/gravar-done...ticia/3120760/

Galician judge rules that setting up secret recording devices to record women (i.e. the "Galician Gotta Go" series) is not a crime.

"No existeix delicte contra la intimitat i la pròpia imatge perquè l'enregistrament es va fer a la via pública."

(there is no crime against against "intimacy" and the "self-image" because the recording is done in a public place) (quick translation)

[westbound]

Very interesting. Thanks for posting. I had no idea Galician was caught up in court. I've always wondered what would happen if the people behind that or other sites (e.g. peeing-outdoors) landed in hot water with the police.

[PeePeeper2]

Originally Posted by mgardner

In Catalan: hxxps://www.ccma.cat/324/gravar-done...ticia/3120760/

Galician judge rules that setting up secret recording devices to record women (i.e. the "Galician Gotta Go" series) is not a crime.

"No existeix delicte contra la intimitat i la pròpia imatge perquè l'enregistrament es va fer a la via pública."

(there is no crime against against "intimacy" and the "self-image" because the recording is done in a public place) (quick translation)

A full google translation:


Burning women urinating on the street and uploading it to porn websites is not a crime, says a judge
In Galicia, a magistrate has rejected for the second time the complaint of a women's association against hidden camera recordings uploaded to pornographic websites
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28/09/2021 - 17.13 Updated 28/09/2021 - 17.12


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Judicial

For the second time, the head of the court of instruction number 1 of Viveiro, in Galicia, has rejected the complaint filed by a group of women who were secretly recorded while urinating during a popular party.

The images were obtained with hidden cameras placed on purpose and then uploaded to pornographic websites, some of which were paid. In all, about eighty women were recorded.

The events took place in the summer of two years ago during A Maruxaina, a festival that brings together thousands of people in the town of San Cibrao, in the municipality of Cervo, in Lugo.

The alley was used to defecate due to the lack of public restrooms for all attendees.
Demonstration in San Cibrao, last April, in support of women recorded during the A Maruxaina festival (Europa Press / Carlos Castro)

Precisely, the first argument of Judge Pablo Muñoz Vázquez to dismiss the complaint is that there is no crime against privacy and one's own image because the recording was made on the public road.

Nor does it consider that any crime against moral integrity has been committed because “the tendentious intent to break the physical and moral resistance” of the women who were recorded is not appreciated.


A "humiliating" fact

For this reason, as he did for the first time in March, the judge has again decided to temporarily suspend the complaint filed by the association Women in Equality Burela (Bumei), which has already filed a second appeal, this once before a higher instance, the Provincial Court of Lugo.

María del Mar Fraga, president of Bumei, considers that what happened is "humiliating" and that "a crime like this, which attacks honor and one's own image, cannot be justified because it has been perpetrated in the public road".

In statements to the EFE agency he also recalled that the institution of the ombudsman, the Galician equivalent of the ombudsman, and "society in general" have also considered that the facts constitute a crime.


The Public Prosecutor's Office does see it as a crime

The judge's decision is also not shared by the Prosecutor's Office, which considers that the recording with hidden cameras of women defecating in a secluded place does constitute a crime against privacy and that there could also be a crime against integrity. moral.

[peehunter]

What is especially interesting to me why no one of these women was not penalized for public urination? Everywhere we read about men who makes photos of women. Women always try to convert photographing to crime action. But nobody of them never answered for their law violation of public urination. I really not understand it.

[yellowii]

Originally Posted by peehunter

What is especially interesting to me why no one of these women was not penalized for public urination? Everywhere we read about men who makes photos of women. Women always try to convert photographing to crime action. But nobody of them never answered for their law violation of public urination. I really not understand it.

No one should discourage it.

[pisserx]

This is the best possible result for two reasons:

1. The women were not fined; although technically illegal, since they were not fined they were not discouraged from urinating in public.
They will continue to do it.

2. "Galician" was found of not doing anything illegal, as the women were urinating in public.
This means there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in public and that they can continue to be videotaped if they pee in public, which they will.

Good news all around.

More peeing women, more videos

[subbuteo]

Its the most popular news story in the BBC, uk today. Making international news is not good, i think its not the end of this unfortunately, as womens rights is a big thing at the moment . I don't think we will see many more of these videos online.
But Hopefully so.

[laughingbeast]

Originally Posted by peehunter

What is especially interesting to me why no one of these women was not penalized for public urination? Everywhere we read about men who makes photos of women. Women always try to convert photographing to crime action. But nobody of them never answered for their law violation of public urination. I really not understand it.

I don't know Spanish law, but in my country, the Czech Republic, no reasonable policeman tries to fine someone who urinates in public if that person makes some effort to hide from the eyes of passers-by, although this could theoretically be considered something like dirtying of public spaces.

Of course, it depends on the circumstances and place. If someone is trying to hide behind trash cans, bushes, or parked cars, that's different than peeing an some monument or right on someone else's house.

The vast majority of cases, where someone gets fine for peeing in public are situations where the person is peeing near a crowd of other people and not trying to be at least a little decent and hide from their view.

Does this work similarly in most other European countries and the US, or are there places where the cops fine even someone who makes the best effort to hide when they go to pee?

[irc_addicts]

Originally Posted by subbuteo

Its the most popular news story in the BBC, uk today. Making international news is not good, i think its not the end of this unfortunately, as womens rights is a big thing at the moment . I don't think we will see many more of these videos online.
But Hopefully so.

Thats is becasue the bbc are twisting the story as per usual . Thier trying to make out the women where somehow in a private space when they where filmed and they where NOT

[irc_addicts]

Originally Posted by peehunter

What is especially interesting to me why no one of these women was not penalized for public urination? Everywhere we read about men who makes photos of women. Women always try to convert photographing to crime action. But nobody of them never answered for their law violation of public urination. I really not understand it.

The reason is simple one rule for women and a different one for men