How come most voyeur videos are old?
 

How come about 75% of real voyeurs videos are old? They look to be between 2010 and 2015 at some kind of music events in Europe. I’m surprised it isn’t much new material floating around from events. I was at Mardi Gras last and I’m in Brazil right now and saw plenty of women peeing. I guess maybe it’s hard to catch them peeing without being caught, that’s my biggest fear.

So you were at events with women peeing....didnt capture anything...and are asking why it's all old footage. I think you just answered your own question there bud.

I guess the answer is very simple. It becames too dangerous in the meantime. Females fully aware about the danger beeing watched by lurkers. And also Police and Secret staff everywhere. Also the famous spots on festivals became usualy fenced.

Sadly, it's the paranoia and security created by some unpleasant events lately that has led to this. Women don't really mind being watched in a public space where they are fully aware of the lack of privacy except some losers who harass and taunt them making it extremely unpleasant for them.

Mardi gras
 

Used to be show your tits show your bush they had vids and dvds from Mardi Gras not sure if showing still goes on ? .

I think the main problem is censorship. The censorship started in China and Russia now coming around a world. The goverments of ALL counties pressing on content sharing companies with laws and limitations. The google and youtube remove all peeing videos. I still remember the time when peeing videos has no taboo on youtube, not now.
The big tube sites like pornhub and hamster ban a whole amateur content.
People are afraid to shoot video and share it on the Internet.

We loose our freedom guys. And I have a bad news to you. The censorship will be grow fast in the next years. The producers of pay content are not interested in free amateur videos. They will do everything to ban a whole true amateur content (not staged content) around the world.

Oh, there is still quite a lot of (good) amateur content. It is just not publicly avaible.
When you share something on a public platform, someone will immediately reupload it to every file sharing service and every forum in existence trying to rake in some ad money off of your work. What these people don't realise is that THEY BURN THE SPOTS. They create publicity for something that is your dirty little secret.
Anything that is an ongoing spot for filming is thus usually kept very private. If the spot gets burnt for some other reason, then the authors might choose to share it publicly, but only if the vids are not traceable to them and if the heat has cooled somewhat. So, anything "new" that hits these public spheres, will be a couple of years old at best.

The main reason is probably that security/surveillance cameras are EVERYWHERE now. Like quite literally everywhere. Way too easy to get identified if caught.

I can do one better. The police department where I live has bragged about how they caught a guy using facial recognition software. I'm not sure how true that is. But combined with photo ID and cameras everywhere. Then combine that with the fact that most countries don't have the plain view doctrine. In the US and only the US, if you can see it, you can film it legally. This I know for a fact isn't the case in Europe. In most European countries filming a girl peeing in public is sexual assault up to 15 years in prison.

Even in the US many cops don't know the law. They will unlawfully arrest you, then they will illegally destroy the footage.

They do it all the time. Just Google "cop deletes footage".

If you think some bone head cop won't white knight for some random girl,then you've never met a cop.

Not at all LOL ! and fortunately !
a sexual assault without touching anybody LOL ...

U will have problems if you record a person who is in a private place
but in a public place, I repeat, public place, u will have no problems and it's totally logical

Logical is not legal in all countries. In the UK for example, things only need to be socially unacceptable and distressing.
Many "public" areas also aren't. The woods or bushes around a venue are private property. You may be prohibited from filming on private property.

Many counties in Europe have similar laws. It is considered a sexual offense in most of the world.
And btw, assault doesn't require touching someone, you're thinking of battery.

Could u please develop?

I should have been more accurate in my words.
By private I meant "closed places" (room etc...)

If somebody pees in the garden in full view of everyone near the street, good luck in getting the recording people convicted...

a "closed" place is a very important notion in the voyeur legislation, way more than "private" one.
What is supposed to be hidden : the limit

A voyeur recording a nude girl walking on the streets : no problem
A voyeur recording an Underskirt in public place : problem


Could u please bring sources for that statement? (for public urination I mean)
Because it's not what I read.
I read very often that what's made in public view can be recorded.

If many articles I read, the main concern was sharing it, not recording it.

U were talking about a sexual assault.
sexual assault requires touching someone, otherwise it will be other things like "violation of nudity" etc... but not "sexual assault".
But it depends from the countries.

But I really don't undersstand why you said In most European countries filming a girl peeing in public is sexual assault up to 15 years in prison.
In European countries, legislation are complex and not under a single notion of "sexual assault" including pratically everything... it' s not the reality.
There are many distinctions made and "sexual recording" have their own articles with their own sentences and I can assure you, it's not to 15 years lol.

That's what i presumed, there are underground communities that keep the content off the web and amongst themselves only. You probably need your own original content to be invited into these circles.

I think more will come. In the time of Corona there weren't any festivals / public events. And I think the reason that there are so many old videos is, that those are reuploads from paid sites. Some of those sites still produce videos, but until they are reuploaded may take some time.

So ya an exhibitionist spraying it all over is one thing.
But a girl trying to hide while peeing is the same as upskirt voyeurism.

You know that voyerism is a crime while insisting your particular form of voyeurism isn't.
What is the difference between going into a bathroom without a doors and going in an alcove in an alleyway?
You go pee just out of sight in both cases, the only difference is that one is inside and the other is outside. So you feel entitled to anything outside? Well then why do you recognize upskirt shots are bad?
If I don't wear anything under a skirt? Are you entitled to see my crotch anytime I'm outside?
What if I just spread my legs and leg go, then are you entitled to a glimpse?
If I go into a half squat, are you entitled then?
What if I have a friend hold a screen up to block view. Are you entitled poke your camera around it?
What if I'm in a alley, are you entitled to stand right infront of my and hold your camera inches from my crotch?

If I'm pulled over on the side of the road, are you entitled to pull up behind me, jump out of your car, run upto me, and hold your camera inches from my crotch?

Please tell me how you're entitled to see my vagina. Please explain.

No, a person urinating in public who willfully pulled their pants down is not the same as upskirt voyeurism. That's actually a crime itself, and plenty of people are ticketed or arrested for it. To be considered a voyeur, you would have to breach "a reasonable expectation of privacy." Having a camera shown up your skirt is a breach, you wear clothes to cover up. Filming in a bathroom in a breach, you expect you are alone. Pissing in an alley is NOT, there is no expectation while pulling your pants down in public, regardless of whether you are behind something or not. Otherwise, anyone operating a CCTV circuit would be violating your privacy.

Its not so much that people are "entitled" to see you so much as it is you are not "entitled" to privacy. If someone made a physical move on you, or shoved your friend out of the way, that would be considered an assault. There are also decency laws that certain jurisdictions have that would make that filming illegal, but none of it is centered around privacy while in public and willfully removing clothing.

Your vagina is difenitely is your vagina and only you decides to show it to somebody other or not. Look at Muslim women. You will never see the vagina of any Muslim woman, because they follow very strict behavior rules. They do not visit nude beaches or public spa, do not wear short skirts, swimsuits, transparent clothes. They do not drink alcohol and not pee in bushes. If they don't want to show their body, they won't show it. Be same as Muslim woman and your vagina will be only your.

These anti-voyeur laws don't work because they violate the laws of nature. A men will always look at a woman, maybe some of them will take photos and videos. And we shouldn't judge men for this, just as we don't judge gays and lesbians for their sexual preferences.

When a woman decides to pee outdoors in a public place, any expectation of privacy becomes an oxymoron. What is expected of a man is discretion and most man till today observe that while their natural instincts make them get a sneak peek at the exposed privates of the peeing woman while making her feel comfortable. Of course there are assholes who harass women during their relief and these jerks are the ones that are basically enabling these foolish laws.

The recent ruling in Spain with regards to taking videos of the peeing ladies basically outlines that if the woman decides to pee outdoors in a public place, she has rights to prevent someone from taking pictures or videos.

The best part being that many young ladies were asked if they had any objections to being filmed while they peed and to no surprise most took the mature attitude of not being concerned if their privates are filmed during their pee. They are fully aware of the implications of peeing in public.

This is a weird take bro. There is absolutely no correlation btwn voyeurism and lgbt rights lol.

I do not agree, the voyeurists ( and exhibitionists ) is a sexual minority and they always under pressure of different laws. I see no big difference between voyeurists and gay/lesbians who was under pressure of laws is like 15-20 years ago. There is one difference, gay/lesbians won back their rights, but not voyeurists who still under big pressure of descrimination laws and still not have a right to watch...

You can disagree but you're wrong. Voyeursim is at best a kink. You're comparing that to ones sexual orientation and gender identity. It's not nearly the same thing.

No, I tell about sexual minority. Gays/lesbians are sexual minority, same as voyeurists / exhibitionsts. Both of these sexual minorities has limitations in their rights. LGBT community has fixed their problem. Voyeurists still have no right to watch...

"ok".

Law of Nature? Shouldn't judge people for their sexual preferences? So you probably don't believe there should be an age of consent, or even consent at all. It's not rape in nature after all. We have laws for a reason.

Edit; After reading everyone's responses.
Just because something is a minority doesn't mean it's oppression is unjust. Rapists are a sexual minority. I see no difference in your entitlement to see my vag and your entitlement to be in my vag.
Nature be damned, we live in a civilized world. If you don't like that, go join a commune or something. But stop forcing your views on everyone else.

Im with you on this. Kinda scary that people think the way he does.

What is wrong with your vagina? Did you showed it in public and some man saw it? Please describe your problem to us. I do not understand it.

And please, voyeurists aren't rapists. The voyeurists have pleasure from watching, not from intercourse (not from sex with woman). Please do not need to posts your fake dreams.
Thank you.

There was no problem mentioned about her vagina. She just talked about who is entitled to see (or be in) her vag, which, obviously, it is her.

She does not say that voyeurists are rapists.

I do not see any fake dream in her post. I do get a sense of lack of respect in this last post, though.

I am with her (assuming it is her).

I definitely not understand the problem of this woman. How we can see her vagina if she aren't show it to us?

And yes, there is a big difference between of seeing of vag and having of intercourse .

Trevor's axiom wins again.
PS: If you don't believe in forcing your views on people, why do you live in a 'civilized' society that literally invaded, 'conquered' then forced it's views on the world before it which built its society on natural law instead of 'civilized law'?
PPS: when your 'civilization' collapses which it's obviously doing, and other ones like rome have done before it; will you respect natural law or still pretend you're a victim of it because you have a commonly accepted and geographically common for you personally giving you the privledge to act like you are above nature when your civilization still answers to nature?
Maybe entitled fags like that (not gay fags burdensome to society and other people type fags which is the natural definition of the word fag: a burden or bundle to carry) should witness first hand, the collapse of a civilization they took for granted over the natural laws it's built upon and will always answer to whether it conquers a society that respects nature first to build itself, or not.
Good luck with tomorrow. The hour is late.

Trevor's axiom wins again.
PS: If you don't believe in forcing your views on people, why do you live in a 'civilized' society that literally invaded, 'conquered' then forced it's views on the world before it which built its society on natural law instead of 'civilized law'?
PPS: when your 'civilization' collapses which it's obviously doing, and other ones like rome have done before it; will you respect natural law or still pretend you're a victim of it because you have a commonly accepted and geographically common for you personally giving you the privledge to act like you are above nature when your civilization still answers to nature?
Maybe entitled f*gs like that (not gay f*gs burdensome to society and other people type f*gs which is the natural definition of the word f*g: a burden or bundle to carry) should witness first hand, the collapse of a civilization they took for granted over the natural laws it's built upon and will always answer to whether it conquers a society that respects nature first to build itself, or not.
The fact I had to edit this post to bypass censorship to make this extremely valid point, is EVIDENCE I AM RIGHT.
Good luck with tomorrow. The hour is late.

PS: nobody wants into your vaj.
If a voyeur catches something happening in a public place, they have every right legally or otherwise to watch and record it. ITS A PUBLIC PLACE.

Yikes. Can you explain how society is collapsing? Because this is practically quoting Hitler and Himmler. The fact that you can quote nazis doesn't make you correct.
Your post has more dog whistles than a legion of duck hunters.

Because there's a vast difference between you watching an exhibitionist, and you going out of your way, beit going down an alley or climbing into a bush just to watch women peeing.
But honestly it seemed like you're saying that if I don't want you looking up my dress I shouldn't wear dresses. If you're not saying that then just refer to the first point. Hiding in a bush is the same as hiding in a bathroom. If I'm attempting to hide, then no, you don't get to watch. Especially if you have to hide to watch.

Dear Jessica. You is not right again. Other person (man or woman) have a right to be in same bushes where you decided to pee if these bushes located in public park/area. Another person can't be responsible for any obscene action that you decided to do in these bushes (peeing, blowjob to boyfriend or sex for example). Only you responsible for things that you do in public. Peeing in public place is obscene action (in many cases forbidden in many countries), watching is not obscene action.

More over public bathrooms not guarantee you a privacy, because they are public bathrooms. Many of these bathrooms have security cameras and I sure that some operators of these secure cameras in some bathrooms can see your intimate processes.

Same about clothes. If you decided to go to the street in short skirt or naked no any other person can be responsible for your decision even if he/she made photo or video.

I'm not going to tell you how I really feel about your comment in a heroic attempt at keeping this discussion civil. So instead I will say...

You feel entitled to look up my dress and spy on me in a public bathroom? Well I hope you end up in prison. You are either trolling or you have seriously dangerous mental health issues.

I suggest you not do anything you've said, because it will probably end your life.

No you have the 'opportunity' to watch. It's not a right. If my front door is open you have the opportunity to walk in and take something. It's not your right though.

Where I said that I go watch you in bathroom? I said that operators of secure cameras watch you in public bathrooms, not me.

Your problem is follow. You are not understand difference between public and private areas and request to follow your personal dreamed rules to other persons. Try to understand it.

I have a right to watch everything that I want in public area. Looks like you is same person as Jessica and you both not understand difference between private and public areas.

Okay I'm getting the feeling you have some manner of disability, there's nothing wrong with that. Just get help dealing with your condition before it gets you in trouble.

I'm not going to argue with you because I believe you lack the social skills or mental abilities to comprehend the discussion. These are what you should seek help with from a mental health professional. I wish you the best of luck with whatever treatment you receive.

I will end this by saying.
You are currently wrong in your beliefs and I hope you see this one day and change your mind. It will take time and effort on your part to accomplish this. But I believe that if you push through the struggle, you can become a respectable person one day. The path will be hard, but don't take the easy way out, becoming a better person is always hard. But anyone can do it, and you can too. Good Luck and God Speed to you.

PS: I hold no ill will towards you. Please take to heart what I've said. Thank you for reading all of this.

And finally my request to all girls and women who will read this thread. If you so conservative and sensitive as Jessica please DO NOT produce any erotic, nude or porn content.
As a result, you accuse everyone for your actions. Ex boyfriend, operator of the web site, uploaders, etc. And you never admit your guilt, but you are the source of these photos and videos. If your boyfriend ask you for intimate content say to him NO, if you decided to earn money on your pussy please think twice. A many people can see it and will see it.

Please do not produce any erotic, nude and porn content and do not do any obscene / nude action in public and your vagina will be only your..

Ok if Im having a picnic at a park and walk to the car, do you have the right to walk up and take something from me that I left there? Public place right? NO you dont. Your argument is so weird man.