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BLMO45 03-27-2023 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica60700 (Post 3866781)
I'm 100% sure most women can produce over a liter when totally full. We have larger bladders so we can still hold some while pregnant. If this girl pees straight down and water level being low like it is in that video, even a basic steady stream would be loud. I think in many voyeur videos the girls are pushing to try to get everything done asap which artificially shorten the time. Also pushing tends to throw it forward into the dry part of the bowl making it quieter. Also being turned on can effect this by causing an involuntary opening of the lips allowing it to go more forward aswell. If this girl is tight enough then it would go straight down when sitting assuming shes not turned on. Since she had to #2 she probably would be a little nervous and therefore involuntarily tightened. I should also mention, being turned on seems to reduce capacity even when trying to hold, as I can personally attest to. This certainly effects porn videos.

All this is to say the time, sound, and capacity is highly dependent on mood. A girl in a porn video will produce shorter pees. Same is true of someone in public trying to push everything out. Also MILFs can generally stretch more allowing them to just dump everything out in a few seconds when pushing.

I hope this helps explain a few things.

This explains one my ex GFs. Her stream was noticeably different when peeing in front of me and she was done faster than if she’d wake up at night or in the morning to pee it was completely different. Usually longer and more direct into the water

Jessica60700 03-28-2023 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BLMO45 (Post 3867155)
This explains one my ex GFs. Her stream was noticeably different when peeing in front of me and she was done faster than if she’d wake up at night or in the morning to pee it was completely different. Usually longer and more direct into the water

Well then she was either turned on, reducing her capacity and throwing it forward. Or she just wanted to get it over with asap. You can tell yourself the former, but it was probably the latter.

mgardner 03-28-2023 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica60700 (Post 3866781)
I'm 100% sure most women can produce over a liter when totally full.

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I hope this helps explain a few things.

I meant details on making subs hold.

Jessica60700 03-28-2023 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mgardner (Post 3867889)
I meant details on making subs hold.

Um ya lol sorry. So not big into desperation as much as naughty peeing. Sinks, floors, in containers, on things, into things. If it brakes something, or ruins something I leave a note with a few details. For instance "tight lipped brunette, had to gush, nearly came". Just so the person doesn't feel so put out. If they aren't mad they may even enjoy it, although that seems unlikely. I just get a kick out of it.

Um alcohol helps, alot, other drugs too, won't list them here but you can guess. Skirt or dress, definitely short, no panties, black is best as it's not obvious when wet, means nothing to pull out of the way. High squat or sitting up against something so still covered.

(To Observer)
This still covered thing is what I was talking about when I asked about you looking up my skirt. But I digress.

They know it turns me on to an incredible degree and that I'll reward them somewhere private. All women, I'm a lesbian, 29 years old, brunette. Subs ages 18-58, all thin, not into fatties.

Since I'm not into holding, it's light desperation so small floods, pushing so quick as possible. Loud, splashing, spraying everywhere, lots of wet legs and butts. Usally at night, but really just anywhere with few to no people to catch us.

Any other questions?

mgardner 03-29-2023 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessica60700 (Post 3867544)
Well then she was either turned on, reducing her capacity and throwing it forward. Or she just wanted to get it over with asap. You can tell yourself the former, but it was probably the latter.

I did a bt of this with my gf when I was younger, and I think staged holds, you get a smaller capacity than natural holds. Unless you literally want to holds to go on for hours (I never did).

Jessica60700 03-29-2023 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mgardner (Post 3868119)
I think staged holds, you get a smaller capacity than natural holds.

I can promise you, a big part is how turned on she is at the time. Personally it's like a 60-75% reduction in capacity before I feel like I need to pee badly.

freg2 03-29-2023 05:04 AM

Peeing After Holding For Hours
 
I think this comes pretty close, not sure if it's a repost though:

goodorbadgirl - Peeing After Holding For Hours
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=63fe4279973cf

She pees for 90+ seconds, even if her flowrate slows down during the last 30 secs, it shows that it doesn't need to be a high flowrate to sound loud and strong, if it hits the water directly. This was maybe ranging from 15 to 30 ml/s in the first part. It all depends on the flowrate: A whole 90 secs with a 50ml/s+ power stream would result in over 4.5 Liters so that would be impossible, but with 15 to 25 ml/s it's quite achievable. The other video is rather 75 seconds (pee sounds from 0:25 to 1:40) but a stable flowrate, so maybe 20 ml/s x 75s = 1500ml. Maybe slightly less or more.

There's one part (or 2) where I disagree with Jessica: Bladder capacity is more of a habit and training thing, and without training, males on average have a slightly higher and more stable capacity. But females have the slightly thinner, more elastic bladder wall, which makes it easier to expand and train it for them, also, they have to hold more often by habit than men, so it really all depends, can't generalize.

Regarding being turned on and capacity: My ex gf did reach her 1.9L record after she was horny and had my dick inside. The arousal distracted her involuntary pee muscle (the inner sphincter) better and kept it tight. Without this, her holding ability was a bit lower around 1.7L. I guess the bladder just fills way quicker when horny or masturbating or during sex, that's what makes some girls squirt. So it really depends, not every girl can hold less while being turned on, in my experience the opposite is the case.

freg2 03-29-2023 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessica60700 (Post 3868002)
They know it turns me on to an incredible degree and that I'll reward them somewhere private. All women, I'm a lesbian, 29 years old, brunette. Subs ages 18-58, all thin, not into fatties.

Since I'm not into holding, it's light desperation so small floods, pushing so quick as possible. Loud, splashing, spraying everywhere, lots of wet legs and butts. Usally at night, but really just anywhere with few to no people to catch us.

Any other questions?

Did you ever do capacity or distance (pee stream) measurements?

What do you mean by milfs can stretch more? The urethra? Or more powerful bladder contractions or both?

Jessica60700 03-29-2023 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by freg2 (Post 3868277)
that's what makes some girls squirt.

So squirting isn't pee. Squirting is a buildup of wetness in the gland that makes wetness. It is not urine in any way.

Also in the video you linked, the water level is significantly higher allowing her small high pressure stream to still hit the water. So design of the toilet and water level can effect the sound.

freg2 03-29-2023 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica60700 (Post 3868376)
So squirting isn't pee. Squirting is a buildup of wetness in the gland that makes wetness. It is not urine in any way. Women with a catheter in can still squirt several feet. It's just a factor of the contraction of muscles around the gland during orgasm.

Source? Every squirting video shows it comes out of the pee hole/urethra, and where does the urethra come from? Exactly, the bladder.

Glands rather produce some creamy liquid which lubricates the vagina when aroused, but there's just no way to accumulate so much of it. Also it would be rather sticky. It might mix up with the pee from the urethra at best.

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Originally Posted by Jessica60700 (Post 3868376)
Also in the video you linked, the water level is significantly higher allowing her small high pressure stream to still hit the water. So design of the toilet and water level can effect the sound.

That's exactly what I wanted to show with it.

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Originally Posted by Jessica60700 (Post 3868376)
PS: Due to the location of the bladder in relation the vaginal canal. A penis would need to be small in diameter and of average or below average length to allow a full expansion of the bladder.

Hahah nice try, but a penis that hurts some girls is long and wide enough I guess. The female abdomen is stretchable so it just pushes everything further upwards/outwards including the bladder, it's not like a metal cage you know. At a certain point of internal sphincter strength, it can withstand the additional pressure when the brain tells the involuntary sphincter muscle to just keep it shut (from distraction, e.g. arousal), the same thing happens when pee shy people try to pee but the involuntary sphincter muscle just stays closed. There are 3 muscles involved: The bladder wall which can contract and push out (involuntary), the inner sphincter which is also not controllable, and the outer sphincter which is controllable. It all depends on which signal they get from the brain. If you get the urge strongly, you're basically only left holding with the controllable/voluntary muscle. It's a complex system.


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